JOHNNY: Hey Ben, I got the CD of the latest MTV Buzz Band, wanna listen?
BEN: Nah, I’ll pass on the brainwashing.
BEN: Maybe it’s WRONG to joke Johnny about his hang-up on all things popular. I mean, am I any BETTER? He’s controlled by pop culture, but am I not similarly controlled by a sort of ANTI-pop culture? Doesn’t my quest to EVADE the clutches of trendiness equate his quest to EMBRACE them?